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Post by spastikmooss on Jul 15, 2008 15:59:41 GMT -4
Eventually I'll be doing real weekly power rankings, but I thought I'd start with a simple keeper rating right now. Setting 6 keepers for each team (based on what you've told me or what I've guessed) and the Yahoo Big 100 Board, I've calculated each teams "average player Big Board position." Basically I added the rank of each of the 6 keepers together (I used 101 for players not in the top 100) and divided by 6. I know it's not foolproof, but looking at the rosters and then the rankings it seems to make sense. Results are (and remember, the lower the number the better your players are):
1. Pittsburgh Dukes - 27.8 2. Louisville Juggernauts - 35.2 3. Delaware Blue Hens - 40 4. Pawtucket Colts - 40.8 5. Scotland Yarddogs - 42.6 6. Gotham City General Assaults - 43.5 7. Syracuse Crush - 50 8. Cincinnati Bengals - 51.8 9. New York Jets - 53.8 10. Atlanta Browns - 56 11. SC Showstoppers - 61.2 12. Philadelphia Eagles - 82.3
Obviously non ranked players hurt a lot, but the results are basically the same when you do best 5 instead of best 6 players (Colts and Yarddogs switch is the only difference). But maybe this will help put stuff into perspective as people set their final keepers and get ready for the draft.
And for anyone still wondering what the math was, I'll give Dukes as an example. AP's big board spot is 2 Moss 6 McGahee 24 Fitzgerald 27 Brees 38 Hassleback 70 Add em up for 167. Divide by 6 for 27.8. There you have it.
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Post by spastikmooss on Jul 16, 2008 16:38:25 GMT -4
Rankings 2 - Same Math, Different Board (ESPN's Top 200) So I realized that if we're doing an ESPN league, I might as well use the ESPN Top 200 board as well. I don't agree with this board as much (Willie Parker is ranked 17th and that's just absurd) but it's still pretty interesting. Rankings are out of the top 5 players because people without a ranked 6th player were really hurt. Rankings are (as I said, just involving the best 5 keepers and using the ESPN Top 200 Board, and with the previous post's power rank in parenthesis):
1. Pittsburgh Dukes - 15.6 (1) 2. Louisville Juggernauts - 21.2 (2) 3. Scotland Yarddogs - 22.4 (5) 4. Delaware Blue Hens - 25.8 (3) 5. Gotham City General Assaults - 26 (6) 6. Pawtucket Colts - 28.8 (4) 7. Syracuse Crush - 34 (7) 8. New York Jets - 39.2 (9) 9. Cincinnati Bengals - 41.6 (8) 10. Atlanta Browns - 45.2 (10) 11. SC Showstoppers - 62.8 (11) 12. Philadelphia Eagles - 87.8 (12)
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Post by spastikmooss on Aug 7, 2008 13:37:07 GMT -4
Same deal as before, using espn's top 200 I took the average draft rank of your five best players divided by 5 and did the same for all 6. The final rankings are a combination of the two, accounting for the fact that not everyone has a solid rookie keeper. Rankings will give team name, (last week's rank in parenthesis), and a brief description of what I think of the team's chances. And if you want the ranking numbers send me a message or im me...it'll just take longer to write them in.
1. Pittsburgh Dukes (1) - The best team, and by a significant amount. Not only does he have 2 of the top 5 running backs in AP and SJAX as well as Randy Moss, but he also just got Andre Johnson via trade. And he has 2 first round picks. It'll take a lot to beat Dukes this year as he goes into the draft really solid.
2. Louisville Juggarnauts (2) - If anyone can beat Dukes, it's Juggarnauts. Despite not making any offseason moves he's got a solid RB stable of Westbrook, Grant, and Ronnie Brown. But if Ronnie gets hurt again the team could slip a bit. Has to be the favorite to win his division.
3. Delaware Blue Hens (4) - A real solid team that will fight it out for AFC North supremacy with Dukes. Addai and Marshawn Lynch are solid, Braylon Edwards is a beast, and a lot of this team's success could depend on the season newly accquired Donovan Mcnabb puts out this year.
4. Gotham City General Assaults (5) - Not a lot to complain about here, as he also has a solid stable of backs. Losing SJAX hurts, but he gained Larry Fitzgerald and Matt Hasslebeck in return (along with Willis McGahee) and you can't complain about that. My only surefire playoff pick given his weak division (Eagles and SC will get better but right now they're at the bottom of the league in talent).
5. Scotland Yarddogs (3) - This team will go as far as Tom Brady's right arm takes them. Ben Rothlisberger helps, giving Yarddogs easily the best 2 QB combo in the league right now.
6. Pawtucket Colts (6) - Good team in a tough division with Cuse and the Jets. Colts has to be the early favorite though thanks to the legs of one L.T. and the recieving prowess of Steve Smith, whose two game suspension to start the year made the games against the Browns and Jets just a little bit harder for the Colts.
7. Syracuse Crush (7) - Breathing right down the Colts' neck and holding the number one pick, Cuse could suprsise a lot of people. With a WR corps of TO and TJ, this offense will be high flying. Only potential weak point is RB, where Parker may be splitting carries and Jacobs carries a huge injury risk.
8. Atlanta Browns (10) - No bias here...my espn rank for 6 players would make me the 5th best team but the Browns clearly aren't that good. More likely, given the additions of Roy Williams, Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes and Derek Anderson, this team will give a good fight to most of its competition. Things are looking up for Atlanta but in a tough division, more wins may be the best they can hope for this season.
9. New York Jets (8) - Any team starting Peyton Mannig is not meant to be taken lightly, and this team certainly won't be and could suprise the Colts and Cuse with a division win. But you have to wonder how much Rudi Johnson and Thomas Jones will bring this year. If they turn back the clock a few years and run wild, Jets could be a big time player this year.
10. Miami Dolphins (9) - Welcome to the league former Cincy Bengals. One of several teams with quite a few holes to fill, the feet of Larry Johnson and the antics of El Ocho will have to carry this team pretty far to compete for wins. QB is a desperate need as the team doesn't even have one yet, though you can't argue with dropping Jon "Fumbilitis" Kitna and the 63 year old Brett Farve.
11. SC Showstoppers (11) - Not so hot but things are looking up. With the number 1 rookie pick and Frank Gore the centerpiece of a brand new offense, I wouldn't be suprised to see SC move up a few spots this season. Marques Colston helps as well, as does the suprisingly underrated David Garrard.
12. Philadelphia Eagles (12) - It's looking like a long season for the Eagles. There's some young talent there with Ginn and Calvin Johnson, and you have to be a little excited about the dual TE combo of Cooley and Shockey. But despite some improvements, the Eagles were the lowest scoring team last year and it looks like it'll take a lot to chance things with this team, starting with some good draft picks.
So there you have it...if you disagree I want to hear it. Remember, it's based on espn rankings not personal bias...if it was bias then SC would probably be higher with Jets and Dolphins lower. But let's see how the draft shapes up fellas...good luck.
And just so you know, I'm predicting playoffs for the top 6 teams with Blue Hens and Yarddogs as wild cards. Crush and Browns are dark horse canidates in one league, Dolphins and Showstoppers in the other.
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Post by godukes on Aug 8, 2008 8:12:24 GMT -4
I am not sure if you saw the error, but it is 2 out of the top 3 RBs not 5.
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Post by spastikmooss on Aug 8, 2008 11:42:55 GMT -4
Not an error. Depends on the ranking system, AP is usually 2 across the board but some sites rank Addai and Westbrook above SJAX. Personally I'd probably put SJAX at 4 and Addai at 5, but I wouldn't say top 3 without consensus.
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 7, 2008 15:07:46 GMT -4
Power Rankings (Post Draft/Pre Week 1) I meant to post these earlier but didn't. But I already had them ranked before today's games, so things like Brady's injury this week and other performances won't factor into these rankings yet. These rankings are more a measure of how well teams drafted and how things changed otherwise. As always, last week's rank in parenthesis.
1. Pittsburgh Dukes (1). Kevin Smith was a great rookie pick and Todd Heap was a great risk pick for a team that could afford it. With Hines Ward as his worst offensive player, Dukes is looking really good right now.
2. Louisville Juggarnauts (2). Drafted well and the addition of Shockey helps, but a handful of injuries, coupled with Ronnie Brown's demotion to backup RB hurt this team. Chris Perry winning the Bengals starting job helps though.
3. Scotland Yarddogs (5). Not a bad draft, and the addition of Stewart gives this team quite the elite stable of backs. But the health of Brady may be a concern.
4. Blue Hens (3). An awful draft (Alex Smith? Darrell Jackson?) leads to a drop in the ranks. The backs are great here, but they can only take you so far.
5. Pawtucket Colts (6). Great drafting, as Ray Rice and Ricky Williams were especially impressive.
6. Gotham City General Assaults (4). A few injuries are waiting to happen on this team, and given the health of Jamal Lewis and Willis McGahee going into week 1, one has to wonder how good this team will be. Plus Tony Scheffler isn't even a starter currently.
7. Syracuse Crush (7). Drafted decently, but mostly sitting at 7 because his talent is far better than that of the teams ranked below him.
8. Atlanta Browns (8). Decent draft, interesting trade for Jones Drew and picks, which is a look to the long term given the backs lack of use and younger legs.
9. New York Jets (9). Great rookie picks (especially Slaton and Hightower) help this team make up for a lackluster draft. The loss of starting RB Rudi Johnson hurt though.
10. SC Showstoppers (11). Stupendous draft filled with massive WR potential and the addition of McFadden help move this team up a spot.
11. Miami Dolphins (10). Nice rookies drafted and a good call to pick Julius Jones' handcuff up, but the talent is just a step below Show's squad and so the team drops down a rank.
12. Cape Canaveral Avengers (12). Started with the least talent and so it remains, although a solid draft picked up some potentially great pieces for the future.
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Post by SyrAcuSe CruSH on Sept 8, 2008 16:49:10 GMT -4
i shud be higher LOL
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Post by juggarnaut on Sept 8, 2008 17:01:08 GMT -4
I should be like 2nd to last
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 8, 2008 23:38:03 GMT -4
Crush, I did think about lifting you. And Jugs...I did think about dropping you but not that far. Obviously week one might change things.
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 9, 2008 23:45:37 GMT -4
Week 1 Power Rankings I'm gonna mix it up a little this week. Same deal but now after the general message I'll have a little pros and cons, plus the team’s w/l result next to their rank from last week). And for fun, I’ll predict next weeks outcomes at the bottom.
1. Pittsburgh Dukes (1, Won vs. Blue Hens) Is there really anyone else who could be #1? Won a major game in week 1 versus one of the league's better teams. Pros: Brees, Randy Moss and AP lit it up, Even Hines Ward lit it up after I called him this team's worst starter last week. Cons: If there was a week 1 weakness, it was the low score by the Colts defense. But even 6 pts isn't awful, and I'd look for them to rebound.
2. Scotland Yarddogs (5, Won vs. Jugs) Another good team with a win over a solid opponent. Pros: Michael Turner is a beast. With Marion Barber and the now likely heavily leaned on Lawrence Maroney in the mix, this team will have great RBs. Cons: The injuries. Brady done for the year hurts immensely, but he's replaced with whoever QBs in the desert they call Arizona. If Barber gets hurt there's a bigger issue given the lack of rb/wr depth on this team.
3. Delaware Blue Hens (3, Lost versus Dukes) Yes they lost in week 1, but it was against the highest scoring team, and Blue Hens still finished 6th in points. Pros: McNabb was huge and Lynch and the Bears Def had good games as well. Cons: With the Browns looking lost and the Pats losing Brady, you have to wonder how well the Braylon and Welker led receiving corps will hold up for this team.
4. Louisville Juggarnauts (2, Lost vs. Yarddogs) Lost a huge game that could cost them positioning come playoff time. But they’ll bounce back. Pros: Westbrook and Wayne were huge as expected, but DeSean Jackson was also a happy surprise. Cons: Carson Palmer was awful. You’d expect much more out of him next week.
5. Pawtucket Colts (4, Won vs. Browns) One of the less impressive wins of the week, which was suprising given the immense talent this team has. Pros: LT had an okay day for him (22 points) which was bettered by one by Earnest Graham. Originally expected to share many carries, Colts have to be excited that Graham came out as strong as he did. And Harrison looked good too. Cons: Muhammad, Gage, and Bruce are a lousy 2-3-4 WR combo. Could hurt Colts quite a bit in the end.
6. Syracuse Crush (7, Won vs. Jets) Huge week one win for a team on the verge of the playoffs Pros: Big Willie Style is what it’s all about. Though all the backs pitched in, gaining 89 total points. Having T.O. didn’t hurt either (23 points). Cons: Can Willie keep this pace up with Mendenhall in the wings? And can Eli and Delhomme score more than 31 combined points?
7. Gotham City General Assaults (6, Lost vs. Dolphins) Expected to challenge for a division crown, this team instead fell flat on its face. Things need to change in week 2. Pros: Few. Portis led the team with 16 points. Cons: Hasslebeck and Fitzgerald stand out. No way these guys score this low again, as I expect Assaults to bounce back.
8. Cape Canaveral Avengers (12, Won vs, SC) What a win for a team that I thought would struggle to get even one win. I got this one wrong for sure. Pros: The running backs. Bush, Johnson, and Norwood combined for 93 points. Cons: The running backs. Does anyone see Bush keeping this up? Or Norwood and Johnson getting as many points when they aren’t getting as many carries (Norwood especially got a lot of his carries once the Falcons secured the blowout).
9. Miami Dolphins (11, Won vs. Assaults) For me, easily the least impressive winning team of week one. Yes Pawtucket scored fewer points but this team seemed to get by more on an awful week by the Assaults and some smoke and mirrors. Pros: Eddie Royal and the Ravens Def played extremely well, far above expectations. Cons: Didn’t get much out of Ocho or the backs, and there is not a ton of star power on this team.
10. SC Showstoppers (10, Lost vs. Avengers) Not a bad game for this team actually, as they had one of the better losing scores. Pros: It’s all about Frank Gore at RB with 36 points. Have to be excited about him this year. Cons: QB will be a huge issue on this team. And Burleson’s IR trip hurts as well.
11. Atlanta Browns (8, Lost vs. Colts) A team that seemed on the rise suffers a massive defeat in week 1 to crush some spirits. Pros: Aaron Rodgers was fantastic, as was Plaxico Burress, who showed he may be worth 3 high picks after all. Cons: D.A. looked lost while Santonio Holmes had only 3 points total.
12. New York Jets (9, Lost vs. Crush) An awful week 1 game leads to the last place rank in the power rankings. Pros: Thomas Jones. People are predicting he’ll play better, and he definitely did here. Cons: Just about everything. Even Peyton Manning had a down day.
Next Weeks Predictions Dukes over Dolphins Blue Hens over Showstoppers Colts over Jets Yarddogs over Crush (but it'll be a close one) Jugs over Browns And in my pick for game of the week, which pits a great team with a lousy week one versus a bad team with a great week one, I pick the Assaults to lose for a second week to the Avengers, with Brandon Marshall having a big day.
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Post by SyrAcuSe CruSH on Sept 14, 2008 22:23:12 GMT -4
i shud move up even more in rankings this week
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 15, 2008 17:06:22 GMT -4
Lol it's gonna happen, not gonna lie.
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 16, 2008 15:15:34 GMT -4
Week 2 Power Rankings Wow...what a week. Seems like everyone is 1-1 now, and that Dukes upset was huge. The boards a little shook up, though some teams stayed pretty solid in their positions.
1. Pittsburgh Dukes (1, Lost vs. Dolphins) So Dukes can be beat after all. Pros: Lost in the loss is the fact that Dukes still had the second most points scored. It takes a mammoth effort to beat the likes of AP (36 pts) and Anquan (46). Cons: Where did Randy Moss go? With 4 pts this last week, you have to wonder how much brady's absence could hurt.
2. Delaware Blue Hens (3, Won versus Showstoppers) It wasn't a win over a great team, but it was a win. Pros: Rivers and Chambers were huge this week as Chargers, showing that just about every player Blue Hens has can be a dangerous one fantasy-wise. Cons: Braylon (6 pts) was absent again. Was he a one year wonder or will the Browns pull it together?
3. Scotland Yarddogs (2, Lost vs. Cuse) A chance to go up a game on the division was lost when Yarddogs lost to the upstart Syracuse Crush. Pros: Warner looked great in replacing Brady on the roster, and Marion Barber had his first breakout game. Cons: Everyone else. Cotchery and Berrian combined for 4 pts, and Michael Turner disappeared after a strong week 1. It also doesn't look like Maroney will be an asset this year.
4. Syracuse Crush (6, Won vs. Yarddogs) Cuse is letting themselves be known as a threat, exceling as one of the hottest teams right now. Pros: Willie and T.O. do it again. And the Giants DEF 41 pts didn't hurt either. Cons: I still don't 100% believe in Willie but he's been proving me wrong so far. A lack of overall team scoring may prove this rank to be too high, but you can't argue with results and guys like T.J. Houshmanzadeh haven't even begun to contribute yet.
5. Cape Canaveral Avengers (8, Won vs Gotham) Wow. Gotham isn't a good team right now but another high score from a team I thought would struggle. Pros: Receivers helped out this time, with Calvin Johnson playing very well and Brandon Marshall coming up huge in his return from suspension. Cons: Some of the young, high upside players are playing extremely well right now. It's hard for me to think they'll all keep it up, but Avengers will be high in the rankings while they do.
6. Louisville Juggarnauts (4, Lost vs. Browns) Starting 0 and 2 in the division hurts a ton. Pros: This team is way too good to not come back, and they're standing 7th in overall pts despite the 2 losses. The WRs were huge in week 2, as was Brian Westbrook. Cons: Quarterbacks are the key. Bulger and Palmer combined for 16 pts, far less than you'd expect given their track record in the past. I still expect a bounce back from this talented team.
7. Miami Dolphins (9, Won vs. Dukes) For a second week they were the most impressive team, this time doing the unthinkable and upsetting the Dukes. Very well done. Pros: Huge games from Cutler, Santana Moss, and Julius Jones. Cons: I still don't believe this team will keep it up. Julius isn't expected to produce like that every time out, and it seems like every week the high scorers are guys that weren't expected to score high. Ride it while it lasts, but I don't see Dolphins luck continuing to season end. Then again, I could very well be eating those words come playoff time.
8. Pawtucket Colts (5, Lost vs. Jets) Lost to a team he really should have beaten. Pros: Earnest Graham was huge again, and Witten and Romo connected for a lot of pts as well. Cons: Much too many. It's easy to blame the Texans bye week and the subsequent lack of a QB2, and LT's injury was certainly a factor (and if he's hurt past this week, Colts will drop many many spots). But Ricky Williams and Marvin Harrison disappearing was equally upsetting.
9. Gotham City General Assaults (7, Lost vs. Avengers) Wow...easily the least impressive team so far. What happened to the solid roster this team began with? Pros: Portis was great again, and Fitzgerald made his first fantasy relevant appearance of the season. Cons: Is Hasslebeck's WR situation really this bad? 11 pts from QBs and 16 from WR/TEs not named Larry Fitzgerald will sink a team. Things have gone from bad to worse for Gotham.
10. Atlanta Browns (11, Won versus Jugs) Beating an in division team with a lot of talent was a step in the right direction for the Browns. Pros: Rodgers and Plax did it again, this time with help from Santonio Holmes and the Packers D. Cons: Derek Anderson needs to step it up for this team to even try to compete. And -3 pts from a kicker...that's just embarrasing.
11. New York Jets (12, Won versus Colts) A less impressive win than Browns over Jugs, but probably more important given just how badly the Jets played in week 1. Pros: Peyton Manning bounced back, not to his normally elite levels, but not bad. Jennings helped too. Cons: Only the Patriots. Can Matt Cassel make his team fantasy stars or will they fall to mediocrity?
12. SC Showstoppers (10, Lost vs. Avengers) Losing by 100 pts all but gurantees you a drop in the rankings. Pros: Gore did it again, and Darren McFadden was electric. Cons: Too many injuries did this team in. And starting the Texans defense during their newly named bye was just kind of embarrassing. At least pick a team DEF up or something.+
Record on Last Week's Predictions: 1-4 Week 3 Predictions: Yarddogs over Browns (But close) Cuse over Colts Showstoppers over Gotham City Jugs over Jets Blue Hens over Dolphins
And in my pick for game of the week, Dukes over Avengers. It's been a nice ride, but Dukes team scores high and I don't believe the likes of Reggie Bush and Jason Campbell can keep it up.
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Post by Step0ver on Sept 16, 2008 16:25:09 GMT -4
Get off juggs nuts! his team is crap. He should be #11. He is 0-2 in his own division. He is a joke. I beat him and he's ranked higher than me?
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Post by spastikmooss on Sept 16, 2008 20:28:49 GMT -4
Who are you Step0ver? I beat him (Browns) and Yarddogs beat him, and only Browns is rated lower than him. Gotham/Atlanta/Jets/and SC are all clearly worse than him talentwise (and a few of those teams are 0-2). Colts has some high points but without LT is actually pretty mediocre. If you're Dolphins? I said it in the ranking...nice start, great performances, Julius Jones/Eddie Royal won't help you come playoff time. No way Carson Palmer and Marc Bulger continue to suck for Jugs, and I'll stick with him at least another week thinking they'll pull through.
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